Gr8LakesCamper: Q&A with ARVC Michigan’s New Director

May 4, 2011 by Gr8LakesCamper · 7 Comments 

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A recent Associated Press story that made the rounds in Michigan suggested that the high cost of gasoline will have a positive impact for campground owners this summer.

People can’t afford to take an expensive vacation that includes air travel, hotels, rental cars and restaurants. Instead, they’ll choose to go camping and, furthermore, they won’t travel very far from home to do it.

Makes sense to me. A year ago people might not have even taken a vacation. But the economy is slowly coming around, at least enough for people to enjoy more affordable vacations. And camping fits neatly into this category.

Reservations at private and state campgrounds in Michigan are up by as much as 18.5 percent over last year, according to the AP article. I would suspect that this trend is not unique to Michigan and would be evident nationwide.

I wonder if this means we might just see another RV boom. These people will discover — or, in some cases, rediscover — what we all love about camping with an RV. And if they aren’t camping in an RV, more than a few will look jealously at those of us who are.

One of the people quoted in the article was Tracie Fisher, executive Tate Fisher imagedirector of the Michigan Association of RV Parks & Campgrounds. She said many campers are looking for seasonal options rather than weekend reservations.

Recently, I had the opportunity to talk with “Tate” via email, and she answered a few questions for me.

First of all, congratulations on being named the director of ARVC Michigan! Tell us briefly about yourself and your background in RVing and camping.

Thanks for the congrats; it’s an exciting challenge for me. I’ve been involved with ARVC Michigan since 2004 when I began working as the office manager of Mackinaw Mill Creek Camping, in Mackinaw City. I thought that job was going to be a piece of cake but soon found it is one of the toughest jobs I ever loved. Managing a campground is a very big job and I learned to really appreciate all the hours these park owners put into serving their guests.

I camped with my family as a kid and still love exploring new parks and places. There is something about being outdoors that rejuvenates your spirit.

I’m looking forward to visiting many ARVC Michigan member parks this summer. I want to meet them, see their parks and hear about their plans and concerns. What a great job to have — visiting campground owners in their own environment. I know I’ll learn a lot about what they need from this association.

As you begin your first year as the director, what sorts of things are first on your agenda?

Sadly, there is a trend of disappointment in the industry with park owners wondering about the value of their association membership. They are questioning the cost of membership in relation to the value they are receiving.

The first thing on my agenda is to find out what park owners need and then find a way to provide it. I’ve learned that my ideas of value may not necessarily be shared by an ARVC Michigan member. It will be my goal to hear directly from them those things they want from ARVC Michigan.

What are you hearing from ARVC Michigan members? Are they anticipating a good season, perhaps a sign that we truly are on the road to economic recovery?

It’s early in the game for me but what I’m hearing so far is that things are looking up. The downturn in the economy may have created new avenues for park owners in offering a more affordable vacation option for our citizens.

You recently hosted the ARVC Michigan Spring Convention and Trade Show. How was it?

It was surprisingly well attended with 130 attending — representing 60 parks and also 47 vendors displaying their wares. Cindy Keineth and Cathy Krueger — of Frankenmuth Jellystone had been working on it for months and really had it wrapped up nicely by the time I arrived on the scene.

ARVC Michigan had been four months without an Executive Director and these two women really stepped up to keep the convention on track. Tom Briggs, president of ARVC Michigan and owner of Grand Rogue Campground, worked to ensure that we were able to hand out a huge amount of our 2011 Campground Directories and was able to get many campground owners to take extra boxes and deliver to libraries and Chamber of Commerce in their area. It was quite a successful endeavor and it also saved us much in shipping.

Barb Youman, the senior director of administration and education of National ARVC, attended our convention and filled us in on the many great programs coming out of national this year. Most park owners seemed upbeat and ready to begin another season.

What are some of the things ARVC Michigan offers to campers? Are there plans to improve these, or add anything new?

Our website lists all our member campgrounds and provides for ease of searching by campground name, area, or amenity. It gets a lot of traffic and is a great resource for campers to find just the right kind of camping experience they are looking for. We distribute over 300,000 copies of our annual campground directory, known as “The Little Green Book” and it is a very big benefit for campers who wish to carry it with them and use it as a paper reference of where they might like to go camping.

What are the benefits ARVC Michigan offers for its members?

ARVC Michigan member benefits include a listing in our camping directory and also exposure on our web page. Both of these venues are very popular and provide great exposure.

We also offer discounts with some of our suppliers and currently the board of directors is working hard on expanding these discounts.
Our Spring and Fall conventions provide seminars which assist our members in keeping up to date on industry trends and the trade show brings over 40 suppliers together in one place for easy access to our members.

I want to reach the park owners who find it hard to leave their parks and attend conventions so I’m working with several people in a variety of industries to develop a series of online classes and informational material to the ARVC Michigan members. These will be targeted for launch in the Fall, along with a revamp of our member website which will be improved and will provide much needed access to topics which our members may have a difficult time researching for themselves.

How does the National Association of RV Parks and Campgrounds benefit ARVC Michigan?

Well, there are big things happening at National ARVC these days and I’m excited about getting onboard through ARVC Michigan.

They have developed several new marketing campaigns which I believe are going to really help all of us in the industry. June will bring a new “Get Outdoors and Go Camping America, It’s Easy” promotion in which members can offer a 20-percent discount coupon for camping during the June shoulder season.

I anticipate any park owners who make this available in their parks will attract new campers who just may become return campers, and that’s always a good thing. I’ll be sending information out to all our members regarding how they can use this promotion to benefit their parks.

Looking down the road a bit, where do you see ARVC Michigan after your first 3-5 years as director?

In 3-5 years I see ARVC Michigan as one of top three ARVC-affiliated associations. There is huge latitude for growth and we have an excellent board of directors, all of which are ready, willing and able to do big things for our members.

There’s an excitement in the air with Michigan winning a fair amount of travel promotion money and National ARVC digging in to create a buzz about the benefits of camping.

I see our members being entirely satisfied with what ARVC Michigan is providing them in the coming years.

I also see many more of our members stepping up to be involved in the decision making and committee projects we’ll be needing help in developing. The very best way to get your way is to be involved in the process so I’m going to be actively inviting members to join us in becoming better and stronger.

Happy camping!
Rick Kessler (Gr8LakesCamper)

From the companion blog: Ohio DNR officials are hoping to lure campers back to Grand Lake St. Marys State Park with 50-percent discounts. Officials have struggled to correct a toxic algae problem with the lake, which naturally has meant a huge drop-off in campers. Also, the popular camper storage program at select Michigan state parks and recreation areas will return this camping season to help families offset the cost of rising gas prices and enjoy their summer vacation plans. Finally, campers with reservations at Illini State Park in Illinois need to check on the status of the park as it is temporarily closed due to problems with its wastewater treatment system.

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Gr8LakesCamper: Online Campground Reservations

August 18, 2010 by Gr8LakesCamper · 17 Comments 

A while back I posted a press release from the Illinois Department of Natural Resources shifting all of its campground reservations to the Internet. Several people commented on this post, basically taking exception to the state parks contracting with third party vendors and passing the costs onto us.

I promised a follow-up, and here it is.

(Note: You can read my Illinois DNR post and the comments by clicking here.)

In a nutshell: State park systems are losing money and staff; contracting campground reservation systems with third-party vendors are paid for by campground users; the two primary vendors are both owned by the same parent company.

That’s the overview; the details are best explained by how one state — Ohio — went about it.

The Ohio State Park system is the third most visited park system in the nation, with over 50 million “visitor occasions” annually. Visitor occasions are essentially anytime anyone uses a state park. For Ohio, this includes day users and overnight stays at nearly 10,000 campsites in 57 campgrounds; 1,025 miles of shoreline, 80 public beaches and 188 boat ramps; 36 nature/visitor centers; 183 playgrounds and 6 golf courses; 394 individual trails totaling 1,167 miles; 518 cottages and 9 resort lodges. In 2009, people camped at an Ohio State Park a total of 582,000 nights.

John Hunter, Acting Chief of ODNR’s Parks & Recreation Division, said Ohio began exploring using a reservation program in 2003. Prior to that, cottage reservations were done with pen and paper at each facility, and there simply was no reservation system in place for campgrounds. It was all first-come, first-served as people showed up at the parks.

When they first started exploring reservation systems, Hunter said they quickly discovered they needed one specific to camping. Reservation systems for other industries, such as hotels and airlines, didn’t translate to the unique needs of camping, he said. With that in mind, they discovered they had two options when it came to a camping-specific reservation system: One, they purchase a company’s pre-packaged system and manage it in-house; Two, they contract with a third-party vendor that would manage its own system, but customized to Ohio’s specifications.

The negative to option one was that purchasing and managing a system was estimated at about $9 million — which due to enormous budget cuts over the years Ohio’s Parks & Rec Division didn’t have. Also, Parks & Rec staff, which already had seen its numbers reduced by 45 percent in the last dozen years or so, made it clear they were neither willing nor able to take on the additional responsibilities of managing such a system.

So, Ohio decided to contract with a third-party vendor. At that time in 2003, two such vendors existed: InfoSpherix Inc. and its software product, Reserve World; and a company known as IAC with its software product, ReserveAmerica.

Quick aside: This is a bit complicated, but in 2009 The Active Network company purchased ReserveAmerica from IAC, and InfoSpherix is a wholly-owned subsidiary of The Active Network. As Hunter said, Reserve World and ReserveAmerica may be two different software products, but they are managed by the same people.

According to company information, 12 states use Reserve World: Delaware, Georgia, Indiana, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Mexico, Ohio, Pennsylvania and South Dakota.

According to company information, 23 states use ReserveAmerica: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Idaho, Illinois, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Mississippi, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin. In addition, the U.S. National Parks and Forests also use ReserveAmerica.

Both products are also used by private campgrounds (i.e. KOA uses ReserveAmerica).

Also, for the sake of understanding, I will simply refer to each entity as Reserve World and ReserveAmerica.

Back to Ohio.

In 2003, after Ohio determined it would go with a third-party vendor for its new reservation system, Reserve World and ReserveAmerica both submitted proposals. Hunter said Reserve World put together a better package more suited to what Ohio was requesting. Specifically, Ohio was wanting a point-of-sale component that would allow all sales transactions — campsite/cottage rentals, greens fees, boat rentals and docking fees, etc.— to be made under the same centralized electronic system.

The main components of Reserve World’s system for Ohio included:
• Central Reservation System accessible via a Call Center, the Internet and On-Site at each Park Facility
• Point-of-Sale Transactions
• Real Time Activity (the campsite is reserved as soon as the transaction takes place)
• Data Management
• All Hardware (Computers) and Training

The system was great, but as Hunter quickly admitted, paying for it was a whole other matter.

“What we had to figure out was how would we get this program in place, but pass the cost onto the customer,” Hunter said, adding that they realized this fee would not be popular. However, he said the key to “selling this” to the general public was that the financial burden of the new system was not being placed upon them, but with users. Even then, he added, users also were given the option of not having to pay the fee.

“We gave them an option that if you don’t want to pay a fee, then you don’t have to make a reservation,” Hunter said. “But if you want that privilege of reserving the exact site you want on the exact dates you want it, then you have to pay the reservation fee. That settled the public to a great degree and sort of calmed the issue.”

A four-year contract was negotiated in which Reserve World was paid via a reservation fee, which is now $8.25. In addition to the reservation fee, Hunter said Reserve World receives a “much smaller amount” from each campsite/cottage overnight fee. The reason for this additional money is somewhat complicated, but it boils down to this: Reserve World needed to be paid for providing the point-of-sale component. At first glance it would seem logical that a nominal fee would be added to each transaction. The problem was at that time Hunter said no one knew how many point-of-sale transactions took place, but the number of camping/cottage overnight stays was more exact so the cost was factored into that figure.

After a year of development and training, the system went live in December of 2004. The same Reserve World system has been in use ever since. Reserve World won the contract a second time when it was up for bid recently, and an Ohio Campers Rewards component — basically a frequency discount program — was added to the system.

Externally, the overwhelming benefit to the public is the convenience of being able to reserve a specific campsite or cottage at a specific park for a specific date.

Internally, Hunter said the benefits are: there is no cost to the Ohio state parks system; the cost is not a burden on taxpayers who do not use the facilities; revenue transactions are centralized, electronic and immediate; data is collected and managed for marketing and other purposes; the system provides the ability to disperse information to a wide audience (such as a water advisory or Emerald Ash Borer information to campers coming from infected areas).

In Ohio and other states, Reserve World and ReserveAmerica make their money via the reservation fee. This fee varies slightly from state to state. Although some — Indiana and Pennsylvania among them — do not charge a reservation fee, Hunter said “I guarantee you those states bury the cost in their camping fee.”

Bottom line: As always, it comes down to money. To offer a reservation service, but faced with declining budgets and staff, many state park systems contract with third-party vendors and pass the costs along to users.

My opinion is this: Online reservations are a convenience I would not want to do without, and the campsite descriptions are very valuable. Yes, I think we pay too many taxes and government waste is rampant and criminal, but I choose to accept the reservation fee as part of camping.

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Gr8LakesCamper: Reserving Illinois State Park campsites now online

June 7, 2010 by Gr8LakesCamper · 7 Comments 

Picture 1Reservations for most Illinois Department of Natural Resources (IDNR) campsites, cabins, group campsites and picnic shelters for the 2010 season can be made online beginning July 7.

Reservations can be made on the ReserveAmerica website at using Visa and MasterCard. IDNR camping and shelter reservations will no longer be taken through the mail or over the phone.

“The new online campsite reservation system will make it more convenient for visitors to reserve a spot at our state parks, recreation areas and state fish and wildlife areas,” said IDNR Director Marc Miller. “Our state sites are popular destinations for families, hikers, hunters, anglers, and all outdoor enthusiasts. By taking reservations online, we’ll help visitors be certain there is a campsite waiting for them when they arrive.”

Reserving campsites and shelters through ReserveAmerica’s easy-to-navigate website will allow users to receive instant confirmation of their reservations at IDNR sites.

Reservations for regular campsites and group campsites require a $5 non-refundable reservation fee and payment of the full camping and utility fees at the time the reservation is made. Camping fee information for IDNR sites is available at Payment of the entire camping and utility fee amount will guarantee that the reservation will be held for the entire length of the stay. Shelter reservation fees are $25 (except on Saturdays at Spitler Woods State Natural Area in Macon Co., where the shelter fee is $150).

Campsites can be reserved for a maximum of 14 nights per 30-day period and reservations must be made at least seven or five days before the campsite is needed, depending on the facility. Reservations for the Fourth of July and Labor Day weekends may require a two- or three-night minimum stay reservation.

Campsite reservations through the new online system will be available at 67 of Illinois’ state parks and other sites managed by the IDNR. Shelter reservations will be available at 51 sites.

From the personal blog: One of the things we love to do when camping is to go hiking. Want to go hiking but don’t know where to begin? Click here for great beginner’s information on hiking.

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Gr8LakesCamper: Ludington State Park

May 21, 2010 by Gr8LakesCamper · 15 Comments 

Big Sable Point Lighthouse in Ludington State ParkAs I mentioned in an earlier post, one of my most favorite magazines is Midwest Living. Every month, the editors do a fantastic job of covering all the great things about the Midwest — with a heavy dose of all things travel-related (lodging, dining, attractions, etc.). The articles are both informative and enjoyable and the design is attractive, but by far the highlight of each issue is the spectacular photography. The recipes section is extremely good.

The May/June issue recently hit our mailbox, and one of its feature stories is their pick for the top state parks each Midwest state has to offer.

Quick aside: As reference to our ongoing debate on what states constitute the Midwest, it’s interesting to note that, at least for this top state parks list, Midwest Living includes as its Midwest states Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas.

Beginning with this post, I’ll periodically feature each of their selections (although still debating whether to include those from the Dakotas, Kansas, Missouri and Nebraska; what do you think?).

Ludington State Park, Michigan

Midwest Living said Ludington State Park, located 100 miles northwest of Grand Rapids, is “busy enough to warrant a rich lineup of amenities and programming – including boat rentals, lighthouse tours and guided dune walks – but large enough, at 5,300 acres, to escape summer crowding. Lake Michigan beckons, cobalt waves washing onto unruly dunes. Eighteen miles of trails hopscotch over bridges and boardwalks along inland Hamlin Lake. A bike path traces the tranquil Sable River, and a 2-mile hike north through wild sands leads to the lighthouse tower at Big Sable Point.”

Ludington State Park is practically an island, as it sits nestled between Lake Michigan and Hamlin Lake, which was created by loggers at the turn of the last century.

The park boasts over 6 miles of Lake Michigan shoreline. Here you will find lofty sand dunes, virgin stands of evergreen and hardwood trees, soft, sandy beaches, and an extensive network of hiking, skiing, biking, and canoe trails.

The park’s education and interpretive programming is very popular and offers slide and video presentations, and live programs that can give you a better appreciation of the wildlife, geology, and history of this unique area.

Ludington State Park offers wonderful wildlife viewing opportunities from its 18 miles of trails system. Walk the Skyline Trail for some spectacular views of high dune ridges and Lake Michigan, and hike the Lighthouse Trail to Big Sable Point Lighthouse to sample a bit of Michigan’s maritime history.

Perhaps the most unique trail here is the canoe trail. Brochures at the visitor center show you how to make a unique passage along the bayous and inlets of Hamlin Lake’s shoreline. Slip silently down this trail early in the morning for a high probability of viewing herons, egrets, waterfowl, deer, and other animals along the water’s edge. The Sable River, which flows from Hamlin Lake to Lake Michigan, is just as popular for wildlife and canoeists.

There are three modern campgrounds at Ludington State Park — Pines, Cedar and Beechwood — with a combined total of 355 campsites including three mini-cabins. These sites have electricity and modern shower and bathroom facilities in each campground.

Cedar Campground also has a small loop of eight tent-only sites separated from the modern site loop. These tent sites do not have electricity but are within walking distance of the restrooms and showers. For backpack campers, Ludington offers 10 remote tent sites in the new Jack Pine Hike-In only campground. This campground has no electricity and the toilet facilities are rustic. Showers are available at the Pines modern campground.

My relatives — RV campers, of course — have stayed here many times and it’s easily their top choice when it’s time for camping. Trouble is, Ludington State Park is so good it’s nearly impossible to reserve a site, especially on weekends. And the holidays? Fuggedaboutit. But, in Michigan you can reserve a state park campsite six months in advance, so pick a summer date, and sometime in late winter go online here and stake your claim.

Folks at RV Park Reviews had a few minor complaints, but overall most seemed to really enjoy their stay.

“Large, diverse, and pretty park with lots to do,” said one camper. “There’s a long beach along Lake Michigan for sunbathing, a good-sized inland lake for motor boating and canoing, and a short stretch of river connecting the two lakes for lazily tubing/rafting.”

“Very impressive State Park, well run and well maintained,” said another camper. “Very quiet with a wonderful boardwalk for fishing, walking and bird viewing. Many terrific hiking trails and a very picturesque lighthouse. Great campground if you like the outdoors and wildlife.”

From the Personal Blog: Strawberry pie-eating contests, duct tape parade floats, live jazz & blues, outdoor arts, stilt walkers, cross-country bicycling, washboard music, military encampments and musters and the Memorial Golf Tournament are all sure signs of June in Ohio! Click here to read the whole thing.

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Gr8LakesCamper: Ground Rules

May 10, 2010 by Gr8LakesCamper · 5 Comments 

Midwest Living magazine, one of my very favorite magazines, came out with their picks for the best state parks in the Midwest. The magazine’s May/June 2010 issue features 36 of the best state parks in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, North Dakota, South Dakota, Nebraska and Kansas.

I plan on highlighting some of their selections in the very near future.

It is interesting to note what states Midwest Living considers as those in the Midwest. I have been somewhat struggling with what states to include as the Midwest for this blog and it became a source of minor debate in an earlier post.

The name of the blog is Gr8LakesCamper, so the Great Lakes region is in play. But I also say that Gr8LakesCamper “celebrates the world of RV camping in the Midwest.” Are the Great Lakes region and the Midwest one in the same? Probably not.

So, in keeping with the name of the blog, I have decided that all states with shoreline on the Great Lakes — New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota — plus Ontario, Canada, will receive the most emphasis on this blog.

However, should a suitable topic present itself, I reserve the right to blog about those states in the immediate vicinity — such as West Virginia, Kentucky, Iowa and Missouri. For example, this summer my family and I will be camping at Mammoth Cave, Kentucky, and I will most definitely be blogging about that trip.

And another thing. As stated, this blog celebrates the world of RV camping in the Midwest. Obviously, this means most posts will be about camping destinations in the Great Lakes/Midwest. However, I also reserve the right to every now and then go off topic and blog about something other than a Midwest camping destination. Most of the time these will be posted on my personal blog and not here, but on very rare occasions I might want to post it here, too.

I want this blog to be enjoyable for all, me included.

There. Ground rules have been set.

On the Personal Blog — The 13th Annual Gathering of the Tin Can Tourists, an organization committed to the celebration of classic trailers and motor coaches, will honor the 100th Anniversary of the RV Industry at its Thirteenth Annual Gathering on May 20-23, 2010 at Camp Dearborn in Milford, Michigan. Click here to read the whole thing.

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Gr8LakesCamper: Introductions & Whatnot

April 30, 2010 by Gr8LakesCamper · 6 Comments 

Hello fellow RVers, and welcome to Gr8LakesCamper!

Gr8LakesCamper celebrates the world of RV camping in the Midwest — you know, that mostly flat part of the U.S. with a three-week camping  season.

Actually, if that’s your impression of the Midwest, then hopefully Gr8LakesCamper will enlighten you on all the Midwest has to offer.

First and foremost, there’s the Great Lakes and its miles and miles of gorgeous shoreline. The sand dunes in Michigan and Indiana are spectacular, and Door County, Wisconsin is a not-to-be-missed destination. Minnesota is known for its lakes, and the wooded hills of Pennsylvania makes for some jaw-dropping vistas.

Want more? How about white-water rafting in West Virginia or spelunking in Mammoth Cave, Kentucky, which just so happens to be where my family and I are camping at the end of June.

The Midwest also is home to some great man-made attractions as well, such as the Baseball Hall of Fame in New York and the big-city-style-minus-the-attitude of Chicago, Illinois. There’s also Cedar Point Amusement Park in Ohio, which is once again on our camping plans this summer.

It’s not all going to be about camping destinations, though. We’ll also talk about camping with kids, camping with dogs, camping with noisy kids and barking dogs at the neighboring campsite … basically, anything and everything that we love — and love to hate — about camping.

That’s quite a bit to pack into a three-week camping season, don’tcha think!

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Fort Massac State Park

June 6, 2009 by Nick Russell · 2 Comments 

On the bank of the Ohio River in Metropolis, Illinois we discovered Fort Massac State Park, the oldest state park in Illinois. But Fort Massac existed long before Illinois was a state. In fact, long before there was a United States!

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Automatic External Defibrillator

January 19, 2009 by Fred Brandeberry · 4 Comments 

As old EMT, we encouraging the campgrounds to have Defibrillators on site.  In Chicago you have an 3% chance of surviving, in Seattle a 16% chance, just because more trained personnel are nearby.

In 4-6 minutes we lose brain cells from lack of oxygen.

More information can be located on the American Heart Association’s website.

Happy Camping,

Fred b.

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