Comments on: Will Changes Obsolete The RV Sat. Dome Antenna? http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/ RV Campground & Camping Information - RV, Motorhome, Camper, Travel Trailer & 5th Wheel Owners Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:54:04 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Lug_Nut http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-110108 Lug_Nut Sun, 31 Jul 2011 01:13:05 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-110108 frank allen, That would certainly be a good option. Many have gone to the multi LNB dishes that are for stationary use only. Thanks for taking the time to share that with us. frank allen, That would certainly be a good option. Many have gone to the multi LNB dishes that are for stationary use only. Thanks for taking the time to share that with us.

]]> By: frank allen http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-110105 frank allen Sun, 31 Jul 2011 00:46:43 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-110105 Has nay one pruchased one of the new roof jack that replaces the old tall one?King Controls manufacture this sleek samll antenna that is stationary on the roof in place of the relic.Supposeldy this antenna brings in digital signals that are crystal clear. They cost aprx. $145. Has nay one pruchased one of the new roof jack that replaces the old tall one?King Controls manufacture this sleek samll antenna that is stationary on the roof in place of the relic.Supposeldy this antenna brings in digital signals that are crystal clear. They cost aprx. $145.

]]> By: Lug_Nut http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-99816 Lug_Nut Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:09:08 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-99816 Mike, There are conversion kits available to upgrade them to "In Motion" however I do not know if your model is one that can. A marine application differs somewhat and generally costs quite a bit more. If yours was converted it would probably work reasonably well for the short term. Over time it is possible it may fail prematurely due to the constant skewing of both the horizonal and the verticle tracking mechanizum. Thanks for your input. Mike, There are conversion kits available to upgrade them to “In Motion” however I do not know if your model is one that can. A marine application differs somewhat and generally costs quite a bit more. If yours was converted it would probably work reasonably well for the short term. Over time it is possible it may fail prematurely due to the constant skewing of both the horizonal and the verticle tracking mechanizum. Thanks for your input.

]]> By: MIKE http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-99809 MIKE Wed, 08 Sep 2010 01:54:08 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-99809 I currently have a travler hd automatic antenna dish I have dish network, I have it mounted on my boat, Is there any way to convert it to in motion, when the boat moves around a lot ,at ancor I loose the signal. I currently have a travler hd automatic antenna dish I have dish network, I have it mounted on my boat, Is there any way to convert it to in motion, when the boat moves around a lot ,at ancor I loose the signal.

]]> By: Lug_Nut http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-86828 Lug_Nut Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:29:53 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-86828 Craig, I'm quite aware of the dome's ability when using DishNet. Sat at 129 will deliver all HD channels, it's just it is not capable of offering all three, 110, 119 and 129. If operating on one sat and you select a program on another sat. the unit locks up. You have limited select service. For this reason my choice going forward would probably be a MotoSat stationary 3 or 5 LNB for full seamless viewing. Thank you for your great input. Craig, I’m quite aware of the dome’s ability when using DishNet. Sat at 129 will deliver all HD channels, it’s just it is not capable of offering all three, 110, 119 and 129. If operating on one sat and you select a program on another sat. the unit locks up. You have limited select service. For this reason my choice going forward would probably be a MotoSat stationary 3 or 5 LNB for full seamless viewing. Thank you for your great input.

]]> By: Craig http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-86826 Craig Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:36:59 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-86826 The following quote from the original post is incorrect: "Does this mean the dome antennas, both stationary and in-motion are not going to work anymore? No, they will still work, but you will only get limited programming, and in most cases, no HD." While there are no dome type systems available today that will work with DirecTV's Ka band signals, nearly all current systems will receive all available Dish Network HDTV programming. Dish Network offers advantages not available with DirecTV such as an off-air input for their HD receivers which provides a seemless channel guide that includes both satellite and local off-air broadcast channels. Their new receivers also have a USB port which allows an external hard drive to be connected to add DVR (recording) capabilities. This requires a one time payment to Dish of about $40 to activate the recording feature, but that's better than a $10 monthly fee which DirecTV charges. With the recording feature activated, you can also record the local off-air programs in digital HDTV the same way you would record a satellite program. I believe Dish now offers more HD programs as well. The following quote from the original post is incorrect: “Does this mean the dome antennas, both stationary and in-motion are not going to work anymore? No, they will still work, but you will only get limited programming, and in most cases, no HD.”

While there are no dome type systems available today that will work with DirecTV’s Ka band signals, nearly all current systems will receive all available Dish Network HDTV programming.

Dish Network offers advantages not available with DirecTV such as an off-air input for their HD receivers which provides a seemless channel guide that includes both satellite and local off-air broadcast channels. Their new receivers also have a USB port which allows an external hard drive to be connected to add DVR (recording) capabilities. This requires a one time payment to Dish of about $40 to activate the recording feature, but that’s better than a $10 monthly fee which DirecTV charges. With the recording feature activated, you can also record the local off-air programs in digital HDTV the same way you would record a satellite program. I believe Dish now offers more HD programs as well.

]]> By: Lug_Nut http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-85104 Lug_Nut Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:44:43 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-85104 Darthvagrant, One thing that puzzles me is how come an off-air antenna with a coaxial cable can deliver HD as good as HDMI or any other type hook up. The off-air HD digital, in my opinion, equals, and in some cases exceeds, the HD of both Dish and Diorect. If off-air can do it, why can't the sat receivers? If you have not seen an HD off-air, as I think many have not, check it out and get ready to be shocked. Darthvagrant, One thing that puzzles me is how come an off-air antenna with a coaxial cable can deliver HD as good as HDMI or any other type hook up. The off-air HD digital, in my opinion, equals, and in some cases exceeds, the HD of both Dish and Diorect. If off-air can do it, why can’t the sat receivers? If you have not seen an HD off-air, as I think many have not, check it out and get ready to be shocked.

]]> By: Darthvagrant http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-85099 Darthvagrant Mon, 28 Sep 2009 23:17:36 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-85099 Prepare yourself for running HDMI cable(s). A standard (co-ax) cable will not pass HDTV from one source to another, as I understand it anyway. Nor will the old-style RCA patch cords. Fortunately, HDMI cables are now available at reasonable prices. A long time ago when I bought a "upgrading" DVD player Circuit City actually wanted more $$$ for an HDMI cable than the DVD player cost. Silly! There is a limit to the length of an HDMI cable run, however. ....Plus the longer the more expensive, but not too bad now. . Virtually ALL of the new flat screen TVs have a couple or three HDMI inputs...or at the very least one. In addition, most still have RCA type audio-video outputs also. These could be used in place of the missing "cable out". Prepare yourself for running HDMI cable(s). A standard (co-ax) cable will not pass HDTV from one source to another, as I understand it anyway. Nor will the old-style RCA patch cords. Fortunately, HDMI cables are now available at reasonable prices. A long time ago when I bought a “upgrading” DVD player Circuit City actually wanted more $$$ for an HDMI cable than the DVD player cost. Silly! There is a limit to the length of an HDMI cable run, however. ….Plus the longer the more expensive, but not too bad now.
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Virtually ALL of the new flat screen TVs have a couple or three HDMI inputs…or at the very least one. In addition, most still have RCA type audio-video outputs also. These could be used in place of the missing “cable out”.

]]> By: Steve http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-85009 Steve Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:57:18 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-85009 This is all VERY good information. One little thing reared it's head recently. The "new" "improved" directv hd capable receivers do not have any coax output. I had to go to radio shack to get a converter which of course requires 110 power. As you know in power outlets are a premium especially in my class C. How are newer rigs going to distribute tv without coax out? (I don't want a receiver for both tvs and all the extra cabling required.) Anyone solve this with a different receiver that has coax outputs or? Thanks in advance. This is all VERY good information. One little thing reared it’s head recently. The “new” “improved” directv hd capable receivers do not have any coax output. I had to go to radio shack to get a converter which of course requires 110 power. As you know in power outlets are a premium especially in my class C. How are newer rigs going to distribute tv without coax out? (I don’t want a receiver for both tvs and all the extra cabling required.) Anyone solve this with a different receiver that has coax outputs or? Thanks in advance.

]]> By: Del Saindon http://blog.rv.net/2009/08/will-changes-obsolete-the-rv-sat-dome-antenna/comment-page-1/#comment-84958 Del Saindon Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:37:05 +0000 http://blog.rv.net/?p=10634#comment-84958 Not wanting to be limited to only having HD dishes mounted on the roof of your RV you can use a portable stand that can be set up on the ground. This will allow for more flexibility when trees or other objects are blocking the line of sight to the satellite’s signal. While tripods have been used in the pass with the DirecTV single LNB having the most success, they are not as easy to use with the larger multiple satellite dishes needed for the new HD systems. However, if you want to use the new HD dishes, a new stand is available with four legs and accurate gauges including an azimuth gauge built into the stand. The name of the stand is “PDQ Signal”, www.delsand.com . Even when using the ka band, which is used by DirecTV SlimLine dish, a strong signal can be located in less than 5 minutes. This is also true for the Dish Network HD Turbo dish 1000.2. Del Saindon Managing Member Delsand LLC Not wanting to be limited to only having HD dishes mounted on the roof of your RV you can use a portable stand that can be set up on the ground. This will allow for more flexibility when trees or other objects are blocking the line of sight to the satellite’s signal. While tripods have been used in the pass with the DirecTV single LNB having the most success, they are not as easy to use with the larger multiple satellite dishes needed for the new HD systems. However, if you want to use the new HD dishes, a new stand is available with four legs and accurate gauges including an azimuth gauge built into the stand. The name of the stand is “PDQ Signal”, http://www.delsand.com . Even when using the ka band, which is used by DirecTV SlimLine dish, a strong signal can be located in less than 5 minutes. This is also true for the Dish Network HD Turbo dish 1000.2.

Del Saindon
Managing Member
Delsand LLC

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