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	<title>Comments on: Gas Vs Diesel</title>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-84691</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buy diesel for the long hauls and tow capacity. Buy gas for the shorter trips and if you don&#039;t  plan on doing cross country trips often. Now days some diesels are just as inexpensive as gas motorhomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buy diesel for the long hauls and tow capacity. Buy gas for the shorter trips and if you don&#8217;t  plan on doing cross country trips often. Now days some diesels are just as inexpensive as gas motorhomes.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckL</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-79137</link>
		<dc:creator>ChuckL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 00:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, 

Ford has the highest towing ratings in the pickup truck industry. Is this Chevy dealer comparing a Chevy 2500 HD with a diesel engine to the Ford Gasoline engine? 

I&#039;ve got no axe in this deal, but the salesman sure sounds to me like he sells by bad-mouthing the opposition.  A bowling ball will smash a ping-pong ball every time. Many RV manufacturers are now offering the Ford Powe-Stroke diesel also. 

OTOH, if the RV you want only comes with a choice between the Ford V-10 gasoline and the Workhorse diesel, take the diesel. You&#039;ll like the way it drives in the mountains much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, </p>
<p>Ford has the highest towing ratings in the pickup truck industry. Is this Chevy dealer comparing a Chevy 2500 HD with a diesel engine to the Ford Gasoline engine? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got no axe in this deal, but the salesman sure sounds to me like he sells by bad-mouthing the opposition.  A bowling ball will smash a ping-pong ball every time. Many RV manufacturers are now offering the Ford Powe-Stroke diesel also. </p>
<p>OTOH, if the RV you want only comes with a choice between the Ford V-10 gasoline and the Workhorse diesel, take the diesel. You&#8217;ll like the way it drives in the mountains much better.</p>
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		<title>By: ChuckL</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-79135</link>
		<dc:creator>ChuckL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 23:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this Diesel Power Magazine report on comparative performance and fuel economy of a 6.4 L  Power-Stroke diesel and a Triton 6.8 L gasoline engine in the same year  F-250. 

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/ford/0707dp_2008_ford_super_duty_gas_vs_diesel/index.html

It is interesting reading.  And when you consider that the diesel is much more efficient in the city where pumping losses really hurt gasoline engines, diesel looks like th e only way to fly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this Diesel Power Magazine report on comparative performance and fuel economy of a 6.4 L  Power-Stroke diesel and a Triton 6.8 L gasoline engine in the same year  F-250. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/ford/0707dp_2008_ford_super_duty_gas_vs_diesel/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/ford/0707dp_2008_ford_super_duty_gas_vs_diesel/index.html</a></p>
<p>It is interesting reading.  And when you consider that the diesel is much more efficient in the city where pumping losses really hurt gasoline engines, diesel looks like th e only way to fly.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-78842</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im looking at a 2006 class A- 37ft motor home with a Ford V10.  I am beeing told by a sales person in the RV buisness not to consider the v10 for any class A over 32 ft.due to wieght.towing and being underpowered.  he said i need to look for the chevy workhorse since the ford v10 will not pull well with the tranny it has.  
During my search i found that the 2006 V10 has improved and is now a three valve sytem. with a 5 speed tranyy...i understand its not the allison as chevy but????  Any coment will be appreciated.,  

thanks Doug</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im looking at a 2006 class A- 37ft motor home with a Ford V10.  I am beeing told by a sales person in the RV buisness not to consider the v10 for any class A over 32 ft.due to wieght.towing and being underpowered.  he said i need to look for the chevy workhorse since the ford v10 will not pull well with the tranny it has.<br />
During my search i found that the 2006 V10 has improved and is now a three valve sytem. with a 5 speed tranyy&#8230;i understand its not the allison as chevy but????  Any coment will be appreciated.,  </p>
<p>thanks Doug</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-78311</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 14:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the same boat as Jason. Wife&#039;s graduating with her Master&#039;s this spring and we want to load the kids up and take the summer to road trip. My 4Runner can&#039;t pull a trailer big enough for comfort, not to mention the kids being cramped in the 4Runner. In my $20K +/-, I&#039;m looking at clean old &#039;93 Bounders at about $13,500, or a &#039;93 Monaco DP at $22K. Both are about 34&#039;. I&#039;m leaning toward the DP because I intend to trailer and tow the 4Runner. It seems that picking up a $1,200 car trailer that I can resell later is a better investment than all the stuff to 4-down tow the 4Runner or my accord. 

I should mention I plan to roadtrip across the US from the west coast to east coast this summer. Other than maybe getting in a weekend or 2 before, that cross-country trip is going to be the first trip. We&#039;re leaving and not coming back. We expect to pick a new state over the summer as my wife interviews with hospitals for management slots. Given that we&#039;ll be basically full-timing it this summer with stops at relatives homes for visits, and towing the car trailer, and heading out almost first thing for a many thousand mile trip the Monaco DP seems the safer bet for reliability and comfort. 

If we all find we can&#039;t stand living in such close quarters we may even be selling the MH in a year or 2. The Bounders seem a good deal today for what it is, but the NADA values stink. Whereas the Monaco DP at $22K is about 8K under low NADA. The DP is the gentleman&#039;s 3rd RV, and they&#039;ve had it for 8 years, putting about 40K miles on it. The DP now has about 95K miles, whereas the Bounder only has about 55K. I&#039;ve seen at least 2 MH with new 454&#039;s at this mile range. I&#039;d hate to get out on my cross country trip and have the engine fail. A replacement 454 would just about negate the savings if things went that wrong.

Thoughts? Thanks much!
Erik</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the same boat as Jason. Wife&#8217;s graduating with her Master&#8217;s this spring and we want to load the kids up and take the summer to road trip. My 4Runner can&#8217;t pull a trailer big enough for comfort, not to mention the kids being cramped in the 4Runner. In my $20K +/-, I&#8217;m looking at clean old &#8216;93 Bounders at about $13,500, or a &#8216;93 Monaco DP at $22K. Both are about 34&#8242;. I&#8217;m leaning toward the DP because I intend to trailer and tow the 4Runner. It seems that picking up a $1,200 car trailer that I can resell later is a better investment than all the stuff to 4-down tow the 4Runner or my accord. </p>
<p>I should mention I plan to roadtrip across the US from the west coast to east coast this summer. Other than maybe getting in a weekend or 2 before, that cross-country trip is going to be the first trip. We&#8217;re leaving and not coming back. We expect to pick a new state over the summer as my wife interviews with hospitals for management slots. Given that we&#8217;ll be basically full-timing it this summer with stops at relatives homes for visits, and towing the car trailer, and heading out almost first thing for a many thousand mile trip the Monaco DP seems the safer bet for reliability and comfort. </p>
<p>If we all find we can&#8217;t stand living in such close quarters we may even be selling the MH in a year or 2. The Bounders seem a good deal today for what it is, but the NADA values stink. Whereas the Monaco DP at $22K is about 8K under low NADA. The DP is the gentleman&#8217;s 3rd RV, and they&#8217;ve had it for 8 years, putting about 40K miles on it. The DP now has about 95K miles, whereas the Bounder only has about 55K. I&#8217;ve seen at least 2 MH with new 454&#8217;s at this mile range. I&#8217;d hate to get out on my cross country trip and have the engine fail. A replacement 454 would just about negate the savings if things went that wrong.</p>
<p>Thoughts? Thanks much!<br />
Erik</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Miller</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-76934</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have decided I want a diesel motorhome.  After driving diesel and gas, I really like the ride and quietness of a diesel coach.  However, my salesman is trying really hard to talk me into a gas.  He thinks I won&#039;t drive it enough and there is so much more to go wrong with a diesel.  I am looking to buy a nice used diesel around 1999 or 2000.  The salesman is telling me how much more I can get by going with gas.  What do you think?  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have decided I want a diesel motorhome.  After driving diesel and gas, I really like the ride and quietness of a diesel coach.  However, my salesman is trying really hard to talk me into a gas.  He thinks I won&#8217;t drive it enough and there is so much more to go wrong with a diesel.  I am looking to buy a nice used diesel around 1999 or 2000.  The salesman is telling me how much more I can get by going with gas.  What do you think?  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-75030</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 01:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen,

Performance, durability, and maitenance wise, it&#039;s about a wash between the Vortec 8.1 and Triton 6.8.  Drivability wise, there&#039;s some differences.  The 8.1 is a big block V-8 and produces its torque at lower RPMs, and the torque curve is really flat.  It&#039;s also mated to an Allison 6-speed with two overdrive gears, so it normally runs at a realitively low RPM at highway speeds.  The Triton 6.8 is a smaller displacement V-10, using the same bore and stroke of Ford&#039;s 5.4 Triton V-8 and has a torque curve that looks more like a hill. As a result, it  needs to turn more RPM&#039;s,  but it does have a higher HP rating.

For most it comes down to a personal choice of having either a larger somewhat lazy feeling engine, that will pull hard from 1600 RPMS, or a higher reving engine that&#039;s quicker to respond and downshift more often when needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen,</p>
<p>Performance, durability, and maitenance wise, it&#8217;s about a wash between the Vortec 8.1 and Triton 6.8.  Drivability wise, there&#8217;s some differences.  The 8.1 is a big block V-8 and produces its torque at lower RPMs, and the torque curve is really flat.  It&#8217;s also mated to an Allison 6-speed with two overdrive gears, so it normally runs at a realitively low RPM at highway speeds.  The Triton 6.8 is a smaller displacement V-10, using the same bore and stroke of Ford&#8217;s 5.4 Triton V-8 and has a torque curve that looks more like a hill. As a result, it  needs to turn more RPM&#8217;s,  but it does have a higher HP rating.</p>
<p>For most it comes down to a personal choice of having either a larger somewhat lazy feeling engine, that will pull hard from 1600 RPMS, or a higher reving engine that&#8217;s quicker to respond and downshift more often when needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-68761</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that I&#039;m totally confused, maybe somebody can help me with a decision.  
I&#039;m looking at buying a 35 ft. Toy Hauler motorhome with a 6.8 liter Triton, or maybe a 35 ft. Class C with a diesel.
Would anyone know what the difference in gas mileage would be?  And which would be a better choice in gas engines, the Triton or an 8.1 liter Vortec?
Thank you for any help.

Karen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I&#8217;m totally confused, maybe somebody can help me with a decision.<br />
I&#8217;m looking at buying a 35 ft. Toy Hauler motorhome with a 6.8 liter Triton, or maybe a 35 ft. Class C with a diesel.<br />
Would anyone know what the difference in gas mileage would be?  And which would be a better choice in gas engines, the Triton or an 8.1 liter Vortec?<br />
Thank you for any help.</p>
<p>Karen</p>
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		<title>By: daniel Tousignant</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/07/gas-vs-diesel/comment-page-1/#comment-46001</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel Tousignant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gas vs diesel is a very interesting subject and need more though. So I will appreciate some guidances. I will buy a Gulfstream Bounty Hunter probably next year. Reason is for the built in garage of course. It is offered with gas engines, Ford V-10 or 8.1 liters Workhorse, or a diesel made by Cummins on a Freightliner chassis. All are having nearly the same horsepower. It will be very interesting to see a comparison test of the three in the exact same conditions. I hope Gulfstream will have the guts to propose it. I will appreciate constructive recommendations and your evaluation of what gas milleage I could expect from the different versions. My intend is to do approximately 5 to 10 thousands miles per year and to keep it for more than ten years. If you know of any good road test with documented fuel consumption I will appreciate any references.
Regards to all haapy rvers. 
Daniel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gas vs diesel is a very interesting subject and need more though. So I will appreciate some guidances. I will buy a Gulfstream Bounty Hunter probably next year. Reason is for the built in garage of course. It is offered with gas engines, Ford V-10 or 8.1 liters Workhorse, or a diesel made by Cummins on a Freightliner chassis. All are having nearly the same horsepower. It will be very interesting to see a comparison test of the three in the exact same conditions. I hope Gulfstream will have the guts to propose it. I will appreciate constructive recommendations and your evaluation of what gas milleage I could expect from the different versions. My intend is to do approximately 5 to 10 thousands miles per year and to keep it for more than ten years. If you know of any good road test with documented fuel consumption I will appreciate any references.<br />
Regards to all haapy rvers.<br />
Daniel.</p>
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		<title>By: bobvelon</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobvelon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 22:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the debate between gas or diesel.   I can only speak from my experience with my diesel motorhome.   At 65 miles an hour I get 10.8 miles per gallon.  If I drive 55 I get 12.4 miles per gallon.  We have traveled with friends that have gas engined motorhomes and they get between 5 to 6 miles per gallon.  I probably paid more for a diesel engine but given the economy and longer engine life I feel I made the right choice.  

When we first bought this motorhome, a Rockwood on a Sparten chassis, it had a differential of 3:73.  I regeared it to 3:23.   I think I did the right thing in doing that.  My price for diesel is higher here in California than other states so feel I am really being ripped off.  When on vacation last May of 2007 we paid about the same for diesel as those using unleaded.  

Bob</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the debate between gas or diesel.   I can only speak from my experience with my diesel motorhome.   At 65 miles an hour I get 10.8 miles per gallon.  If I drive 55 I get 12.4 miles per gallon.  We have traveled with friends that have gas engined motorhomes and they get between 5 to 6 miles per gallon.  I probably paid more for a diesel engine but given the economy and longer engine life I feel I made the right choice.  </p>
<p>When we first bought this motorhome, a Rockwood on a Sparten chassis, it had a differential of 3:73.  I regeared it to 3:23.   I think I did the right thing in doing that.  My price for diesel is higher here in California than other states so feel I am really being ripped off.  When on vacation last May of 2007 we paid about the same for diesel as those using unleaded.  </p>
<p>Bob</p>
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