Top

Tech- Tune up your rooftop A/C

May 8, 2008 by Chris Bryant ·  

If you're new here, you may want to subscribe to our E-mail Digest. We will then send you the stories that are posted each day in an e-mail digest. We use a service called Feedburner for delivery of these emails. You will receive an e-mail from Feedburner after you subscribe and you must click on that email to activate your subscription. Thanks for visiting and enjoy all the information!

RV.Net Blog Admin

DuoTherm A/CIn some parts of the country, the heat is already here- in other parts, it’s well on its way, so I thought it might be good to talk about giving your rooftop air conditioner a basic tuneup.

A couple of things to remember about roof top RV air conditioners- all air conditioners work by removing heat (actually, all refrigeration works that way- as do heat pumps), and RV air conditioner- as they come from the factory- are hermetically sealed, and they only hold about 1 pound of refrigerant (at this time, R-22 is the refrigerant used). The point of this is that with less than 1 pound of refrigerant and a sealed system, 99% of the time, “not enough cooling” complaints are due to air flow issues, and not lack of “FreonĀ®”

Luckily, the average fix for this is easy- clean the coils! Let’s take a look at how to do this….


Warning!

These procedures do involve some risk- you will be working on the roof of your RV, and working around 120 volt systems and devices which can store power even when shut off.
Always observe all common safety procedures!!

Unplug the rig, disconnect the battery, don’t fall off the roof…. you get the idea!

A word about RV roofs- most modern RV roofs are plenty able to support a person walking on them, but use your own judgment- if the roof seems springy, lay a piece of plywood to walk on, and if the roof is an EPDM roof, take care to not damage the membrane- make certain your feet are clean, and pick up your feet before turning them (which causes bubbles)

There are some basic and some advanced maintenance items that can be performed on roof top air conditioners- I will mention some of the advanced items, but illustrate the basic ones.

To get an idea of what we are dealing with, I’ve drawn a “typical” cross section of a roof top air conditioner:RV Roof a/c diagram

The first basic area is the air filter. In summer, using the RV and air conditioner around the clock, the filter should be checked weekly and cleaned as needed. RV air conditioners use either a foam type filter or a fine mesh, both of which can be rinsed in water and reused. I cannot stress this enough- keep the filter(s) clean!

After a few years, even the best filter will let enough dirt past to coat the evaporator coils, though, so they need to be cleaned. If the coils are not too dirty, and if the installation leaves enough room to access the coils, you can simply buy a can of spray coil cleaner and use that- saturating the coils, letting it sit for a bit, then running the air conditioner so that the condensation will rinse the coils off.

Inside View
A tip though- be very careful in choosing a product to use- a lot of commercial coil cleaners such as would be found in home center type stores can be pretty strong- not something I would like to run over the outside of my RV, so I only use Enviro-Chem coil cleaner, specifically made for RV use.

But- sometimes the coils are just too dirty to simply be rinsed off like this, or access from the inside is restricted enough that a trip to the roof is needed.

DuoTherm A/C The 2 most common models are the DuoTherm Brisk Air and the Coleman Mach series Coleman A/C, though the cleaning methods will be the same for every brand and model.

The first task is to remove the shroud- either screws around the base of the plastic (DuoTherm and Carrier), or screws in the top (Coleman).

Once you have the shroud off, you have to get to the evaporator, which is at the front of the unit under a (usually) sheet metal (sometimes styrofoam) cover.

Shroud Off The evaporator cover (if it’s metal) will be attached by a number of sheet metal screws, remove these, but pay attention to the screws as you remove them. On some models there will be either different length screws, or as you can see by this picture, some screws might be blunt ended to go in to electrical areas. Just pay attention and replace the screws in the same way they were removed.

Cover OffOnce the cover is off, you can see the evaporator coil. Note in this picture, the “freeze” control is not installed in the proper place (only ducted installations use a freeze control).

Now it’s simply a matter of cleaning the coils. Coleman recommends “Formula 409″, I use VoomRV, which is a ph neutral degreaser.

Soak the coils well- if there is a lot of crud on them, I use a bristle brush to clean the coils- carefully, as the fins are delicate, to scrape off the crud. Another option is using a “fin comb”, which is also good if the fins are bent, restricting the air flow.

While these coils are soaking, do the same thing for the condenser coils- soak them well with the cleaner. I can usually measure a 1 to 2 amp decrease in current draw simply by cleaning the condenser coils- this on 1 to 2 year old air conditioners.

Next comes the tricky part- rinsing the evaporator coils without flooding the rig. It’s not hard- put down towels in the air return opening, and don’t use too much water pressure- the cleaner will do the work, you just have to rinse the coils off. Do this on both evaporator and condenser coils.

A couple of advanced items- when I do this service, I also will check the gasket to make sure it’s still in good shape, I will check the current draw on the unit, and I visually check the electrical connections to the A/C electrical component - the start and run capacitors, etc.

And…. that’s it! Button everything back up, and know that your air conditioner will be able to take as much heat as possible out of the inside through the evaporator, and get rid of the heat through the condenser.

Questions or comments- see this thread in the RV.Net forums.

Last 5 posts by Chris Bryant

Comments

10 Responses to “Tech- Tune up your rooftop A/C”

  1. Rickie on May 10th, 2008 6:14 am

    Chris I have a clamp meter that has amp reader. I am trying to find wire. where did you use the meter to measure amp?

  2. Michael on May 10th, 2008 11:05 am

    Your excellent instructions and pix have motivated me to get up there and clean my rig’s ACs. Where would I find the RV-specific cleaners you mentioned?

  3. Chris Bryant on May 12th, 2008 5:16 am

    Hi Rickie,
    The easiest place is at the 120 volt breaker panel, where the black (hot) air conditioner lead will be searated from the neutral and ground.

    Michael- the EnviroChem product is hard to find online (I couldn’t find it on Camping Worlds website), but I did find it here, and most RV shops should have it.

    That said- if you are going to dig in to the units, Formula 409 works fine- the EnviroChem coil cleaner is best if you just want to clean with out taking it apart.

  4. Rickie on May 13th, 2008 6:08 am

    Thank Chris! Here is the other question about the cleaner. I am little concern about the enviro chem cleaner. The reason why is because I do not know if the cleaner has petroleum. If it does, it will harm the rubber roof. Do you use the cleaner for both coils - evaporator and condenser? I would think you can buy a can of cleaner at any a/c service center. I do not think it has to be use for RV only?

  5. DavidJ on May 20th, 2008 10:24 am

    Excellent Article! The only comment I have is about the freeze coil. Dometic customer service told me that it should go on the bottom center of mine against the coils. It even has a little indention for it there. Just something to check. I’m sure it would work in either place. Mine hasn’t frozen up since I fixed it.

  6. Chris Bryant on May 20th, 2008 11:05 am

    Hi David,
    Good point! The one I have pictured is the older style with clips for the tubing- these didn’t work as well as the new style which does clip in to the center of the coils.

    Rickie- the only problem I have with standard A/C coil cleaner is that in a house air conditioner, the condensate will drain out on to the ground, but in (most) RVs, the condensate has to run over the roof and down the sides.

    I’ll be getting more EnviroChem cleaner the day after tommorow- I’ll have a look at the ingredients (a google for the msds on it turned up zilch).

  7. Gene Morrow on June 26th, 2008 7:35 am

    I have two Coleman Mach a/c’s. They are on a 1999 RV. On a recent outing, both were running 24 hours a day. One of them quit cooling. The fan would run but the compressor would not engage. We also smelled what seemed like burning wires. I have checked the wires in the coach under the A/C and did not see any signs of burned wires. I took the cover off the A/C on the roof and saw not signs of burning. I did not take off any metal covers to check further. Any suggestions?
    Should I take it to a repair facility? The outside temps at that time were in the 90’s with high humidity (South Alabama).

  8. Terry Rhodes on July 4th, 2008 5:21 pm

    If your ac cuts off and on often. check your thermostat and see if air is coming out from behind it.I have a 06 Jayco Eagle tt and i felt air coming from behind the thermostat when the ac was on.This was makeing the ac cut off sooner. I took the cover off and found a large hole where the wireing comes through,and the ac air. I cover the hole with (rv’s best friend) duct tape.Now it stays on till it reaches temp. Note do not use metal tape,It could come loose and short out your unit.

  9. Khim R Kite on July 15th, 2008 10:37 am

    I have a Coleman Mach Series on my 30″ Travel Trailer.I removed the four screws that hold the shroud on,but was still unable to remove it.Am I missing something? Thanks

  10. Sam R on July 15th, 2008 10:00 pm

    Chris

    I need help. I have a Duo Therm rooftop airconditioner. It is Freezing up on me.I replaced the Freeze Controland cleaned the coils,unfortunatly this did not help. It does blow cold air but still freezes up.

    What other parts might cause this problem to persist?

    Thanks for your help

    Sam

Feel free to leave a comment...
and oh, if you want a pic to show with your comment, go get a gravatar!





Deep Discounts on Automotive Products!
Bottom