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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Parking&#8221; Or &#8220;Camping&#8221; &#8212; How do you tell?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim O'Briant</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/03/how-do-you-tell-the-difference-between-parking-and-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-2241</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim O'Briant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 04:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Ron and others who are interested in joining the OvernightRVParking Group…

We’re in the process of opening an independent website where the same information will be searchable. As of March 17, as a part of the transition, the OvernightRVParking Group is temporarily not accepting new members. When the website goes live, it will be necessary to subscribe to the website in order to join the Yahoo Group.

When the website is up and running (which I expect to happen within the next 30 days), I’ll announce it via a link in my signature file on a future blog.

Jim O’Briant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Ron and others who are interested in joining the OvernightRVParking Group…</p>
<p>We’re in the process of opening an independent website where the same information will be searchable. As of March 17, as a part of the transition, the OvernightRVParking Group is temporarily not accepting new members. When the website goes live, it will be necessary to subscribe to the website in order to join the Yahoo Group.</p>
<p>When the website is up and running (which I expect to happen within the next 30 days), I’ll announce it via a link in my signature file on a future blog.</p>
<p>Jim O’Briant</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Howdyshell</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/03/how-do-you-tell-the-difference-between-parking-and-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-2228</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy Howdyshell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim

Being trying everywhere to find out about your forum on Yahoo OvernightRVParking, and it seems as if it is closed right now. I understand you are getting ready a web site for this forum. I would love to be informed as soon as you do, and also join your forum.

Thank you

Roy Howdyshell
Vermont</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim</p>
<p>Being trying everywhere to find out about your forum on Yahoo OvernightRVParking, and it seems as if it is closed right now. I understand you are getting ready a web site for this forum. I would love to be informed as soon as you do, and also join your forum.</p>
<p>Thank you</p>
<p>Roy Howdyshell<br />
Vermont</p>
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		<title>By: Jim O'Briant</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/03/how-do-you-tell-the-difference-between-parking-and-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-1766</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim O'Briant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis H. mentions asking permission to park overnight at Cracker Barrel.  In addition to the reasons stated above, Cracker Barrel&#039;s corporate office has advised the RVing community that RVers should always ask and receive permission from the store before parking overnight in any Cracker Barrel parking lot.

Thank you also for passing along what the Florida State Trooper told you about &quot;parking&quot; vs. &quot;camping.&quot;

Jim O&#039;Briant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis H. mentions asking permission to park overnight at Cracker Barrel.  In addition to the reasons stated above, Cracker Barrel&#8217;s corporate office has advised the RVing community that RVers should always ask and receive permission from the store before parking overnight in any Cracker Barrel parking lot.</p>
<p>Thank you also for passing along what the Florida State Trooper told you about &#8220;parking&#8221; vs. &#8220;camping.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jim O&#8217;Briant</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis H.</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/03/how-do-you-tell-the-difference-between-parking-and-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-1761</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 20:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just returned from a trip to/through Florida last Thurs. and stayed in several Cracker Barrels and Rest Areas.  We always asked and received permission in the Cracker Barrels from the manager or asst. mgr.  They would all insure that someone checked on us during the night, so that was on reason to let them know we were there.  Secondly, I felt this was a privledge granted by the entity and not a right so I asked first.  In Florida I asked a State Trooper at a rest area if it was ok to stay overnight in the rest area and he asked if I was going to start a campfire, set up chairs, put out an awning, etc. (rather tongue-in-cheeck) and if I wasn&#039;t, then I wasn&#039;t &quot;camping overnight&quot; which a prominently displayed sign says you cannot do.  He indicated that as long as one does none of those things, they wouldn&#039;t bother you.  Again, it&#039;s a privledge not a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just returned from a trip to/through Florida last Thurs. and stayed in several Cracker Barrels and Rest Areas.  We always asked and received permission in the Cracker Barrels from the manager or asst. mgr.  They would all insure that someone checked on us during the night, so that was on reason to let them know we were there.  Secondly, I felt this was a privledge granted by the entity and not a right so I asked first.  In Florida I asked a State Trooper at a rest area if it was ok to stay overnight in the rest area and he asked if I was going to start a campfire, set up chairs, put out an awning, etc. (rather tongue-in-cheeck) and if I wasn&#8217;t, then I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;camping overnight&#8221; which a prominently displayed sign says you cannot do.  He indicated that as long as one does none of those things, they wouldn&#8217;t bother you.  Again, it&#8217;s a privledge not a right.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim O'Briant</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/03/how-do-you-tell-the-difference-between-parking-and-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-1640</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim O'Briant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to be tardy in replying, but there was a technical glitch that we needed to work out.  (Everybody could comment on my Blog entries -- except me!)

Happy Campr is correct that we have lost hospitable overnight parking places because of RVers who set up camp rather than just parking. That&#039;s not the only reason our overnight parking places are disappearing, but it&#039;s one major reason.

Bob Davis asks about downloading the PDFfile regarding overnight parking.

That depends on what you&#039;re asking about.  

If you mean the FMCA&#039;s set of Courtesy Guidelines for overnight RV Parking, that file is on the FMCA website at:

http://www.fmca.com/motorhomerights/parking/etiquette_letter/parkingetiquette.pdf

If you mean the listing of &quot;RV Parking and No Parking Locations,&quot; those files are on the OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group&#039;s &quot;Files&quot; Page.  If you&#039;re not a registered user at Yahoo you&#039;ll need to register there, and then if you&#039;re not a subscriber to the OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group, you&#039;ll need to join that group. Those files now contain more than 3,700 parking, &quot;no parking&quot; and &quot;potential parking, but we need a report from an RVer&quot; locations.

Jim O&#039;Briant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to be tardy in replying, but there was a technical glitch that we needed to work out.  (Everybody could comment on my Blog entries &#8212; except me!)</p>
<p>Happy Campr is correct that we have lost hospitable overnight parking places because of RVers who set up camp rather than just parking. That&#8217;s not the only reason our overnight parking places are disappearing, but it&#8217;s one major reason.</p>
<p>Bob Davis asks about downloading the PDFfile regarding overnight parking.</p>
<p>That depends on what you&#8217;re asking about.  </p>
<p>If you mean the FMCA&#8217;s set of Courtesy Guidelines for overnight RV Parking, that file is on the FMCA website at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fmca.com/motorhomerights/parking/etiquette_letter/parkingetiquette.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.fmca.com/motorhomerights/parking/etiquette_letter/parkingetiquette.pdf</a></p>
<p>If you mean the listing of &#8220;RV Parking and No Parking Locations,&#8221; those files are on the OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group&#8217;s &#8220;Files&#8221; Page.  If you&#8217;re not a registered user at Yahoo you&#8217;ll need to register there, and then if you&#8217;re not a subscriber to the OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group, you&#8217;ll need to join that group. Those files now contain more than 3,700 parking, &#8220;no parking&#8221; and &#8220;potential parking, but we need a report from an RVer&#8221; locations.</p>
<p>Jim O&#8217;Briant</p>
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		<title>By: Jim O'Briant</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/03/how-do-you-tell-the-difference-between-parking-and-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim O'Briant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Camper is right -- abuses of the Overnight Parking privilege are a major reason (not the only reason, but without doubt a major reason) that we are losing that privilege in place after place after place.

If I understand Bob&#039;s question, he wants to know where he can download the PDF files of Overnight RV Parking and No Parking Locations.  They are in the files area of the OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group.  In order to have access to these files, you need to be a registered Yahoo user, and then subscribe to that Yahoo Group.  As a reminder to all, the files are copyrighted.  OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group members may download the files for their own personal use.  The files may not be copied, given to others, uploaded to any other website or Yahoo Group, or distributed in any other way without the express written consent of the copyright owner.

Jim O&#039;Briant
Gilroy, CA
Moderator, OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OvernightRVParking/ 
Overnight Parking Blog: http://blog.rv.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Camper is right &#8212; abuses of the Overnight Parking privilege are a major reason (not the only reason, but without doubt a major reason) that we are losing that privilege in place after place after place.</p>
<p>If I understand Bob&#8217;s question, he wants to know where he can download the PDF files of Overnight RV Parking and No Parking Locations.  They are in the files area of the OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group.  In order to have access to these files, you need to be a registered Yahoo user, and then subscribe to that Yahoo Group.  As a reminder to all, the files are copyrighted.  OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group members may download the files for their own personal use.  The files may not be copied, given to others, uploaded to any other website or Yahoo Group, or distributed in any other way without the express written consent of the copyright owner.</p>
<p>Jim O&#8217;Briant<br />
Gilroy, CA<br />
Moderator, OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group<br />
<a href="http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OvernightRVParking/" rel="nofollow">http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OvernightRVParking/</a><br />
Overnight Parking Blog: <a href="http://blog.rv.net/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.rv.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob G Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob G Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 23:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could find where to download pdf. file for overnight parking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could find where to download pdf. file for overnight parking.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim O'Briant</title>
		<link>http://blog.rv.net/2008/03/how-do-you-tell-the-difference-between-parking-and-camping/comment-page-1/#comment-1502</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim O'Briant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Campr wrote:

&gt; I fear the difference between camping and parking is why 
&gt; some of these places that have been hospitable in the 
&gt; past are being less so now. 

Absolutely.  It isn&#039;t the only reason we&#039;re losing the Overnight RV Parking privilege in many areas, but it is a major reason.

&gt; A free parking site is not a free camping site.

True.  However, some of the free places ARE free camping places -- such as many of the city park campgrounds in small midwestern towns, or the dry camping areas at some casinos.  But with places like Wal-Mart, Flying J, Cracker Barrel and other locations where an RVer is parking overnight in a business parking lot with the permission of the business, that permission IS for parking and not for camping.

Safe travels,

Jim O&#039;Briant
Gilroy, CA
Moderator, OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OvernightRVParking/ 
Overnight Parking Blog: http://blog.rv.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Campr wrote:</p>
<p>&gt; I fear the difference between camping and parking is why<br />
&gt; some of these places that have been hospitable in the<br />
&gt; past are being less so now. </p>
<p>Absolutely.  It isn&#8217;t the only reason we&#8217;re losing the Overnight RV Parking privilege in many areas, but it is a major reason.</p>
<p>&gt; A free parking site is not a free camping site.</p>
<p>True.  However, some of the free places ARE free camping places &#8212; such as many of the city park campgrounds in small midwestern towns, or the dry camping areas at some casinos.  But with places like Wal-Mart, Flying J, Cracker Barrel and other locations where an RVer is parking overnight in a business parking lot with the permission of the business, that permission IS for parking and not for camping.</p>
<p>Safe travels,</p>
<p>Jim O&#8217;Briant<br />
Gilroy, CA<br />
Moderator, OvernightRVParking Yahoo Group<br />
<a href="http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OvernightRVParking/" rel="nofollow">http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OvernightRVParking/</a><br />
Overnight Parking Blog: <a href="http://blog.rv.net/" rel="nofollow">http://blog.rv.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: HppyCampr</title>
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		<dc:creator>HppyCampr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point, I fear the difference between camping and parking is why some of these places that have been hospitable in the past are being less so now. A free parking site is not a free camping site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent point, I fear the difference between camping and parking is why some of these places that have been hospitable in the past are being less so now. A free parking site is not a free camping site.</p>
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